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Growth or Contraction? - Tyler Foley

Growth or Contraction? - Tyler Foley

What an exhilarating conversation! Tyler is both informative and entertaining. Maybe that’s because he has been an actor since he was six years old. He now coaches clients how to be public speakers both on a stage and in the boardroom. Through his life experiences, he learned that approaching circumstances with a good attitude is one of the keys to success. He uses the theatrical audition to make this point. If an actor approaches an audition with a dislike for the casing director or in general a bad attitude that energy will spill out and probably prevent them from getting the role. Sometimes we have to pull back from some endeavors because they neither serve self nor anyone else. Hence contraction mode. Tyler can best be reached at his website:

www.seantylerfoley.com

Book: The Power to Speak Naked (Can be found at Bookshop.org)

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:07.400 Hey, Dr g here. Thank you for listening to moving upstream without a 2 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:11.160 paddle. I would like to work with businesses, authors, coaches and the 3 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:16.039 like who understand the importance of shifting perspectives to obtain the results we're looking for, 4 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:20.239 and pleased to announce that moving up stream without a paddle is now offering 5 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:25.160 commercial spots to be aired during the episodes. If you believe your organization would 6 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:29.239 benefit from advertising on the PODCAST, I would love to have you be a 7 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:34.280 part of this continuously growing show. Let's get connected and inspire the world together. 8 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:41.679 I am always, always, always happy to do a corporate facilitation. 9 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.640 I have a lot of corporate clients who bring me in to work with their 10 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:48.399 executives, to work with their management team and their supervisory team so that they're 11 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:53.240 giving better presentations, because that's the worst thing about business and when you have 12 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:59.880 to go into the board room and get a lobotomy. What's everybody? Welcome 13 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.920 Act to another episode of moving up stream without a paddle. I have another 14 00:01:03.959 --> 00:01:08.480 amazing guest, but before we introduced him, I wanted to send out another 15 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:14.879 invite to all the listeners who are going through their personal development, personal discovery 16 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:19.200 journey and are looking to get connected with some like minded individuals. See, 17 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:23.040 I created the moving up stream without a paddle facebook group as an extension to 18 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:27.439 this podcast where we can get together, share some wins, you work through 19 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:33.920 our struggles and anything else that might actually uplift our community or or even ourselves. 20 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:38.079 So you head on over to Facebook, look up moving up stream without 21 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.120 a paddle the group and let's get you plugged in. But with that, 22 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:48.239 I'm really excited to introduce the Mr Tyler Foley. Um. I think this 23 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:53.359 is gonna be a really good conversation. But he's just he has really as 24 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:56.159 a lot of my guests do. He has a very interesting career. For 25 00:01:56.200 --> 00:02:00.200 the past three or five years he's been a part of a slew of TV 26 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.159 series and movies and Um, for the past ten years he has been a 27 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:10.400 safety consultant, instructor and keynotes presenter. He's also the author of the number 28 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:15.360 one best selling book, the power to speak naked, UM, which is 29 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.560 a very interesting title and I can't wait to dive more into his book his 30 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:23.560 story. Um, he's thriving. He says he's thriving today despite a medical 31 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:30.479 incident that he had at the age of seventeen that left him paralyzed on his 32 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:34.759 left side. Um, he but he does contribute all of his success primarily 33 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.520 to his mindset. And you know, I really hope you're ready for another 34 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:44.319 life changing conversation, because my talk with Tyler is going to happen right after 35 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:53.080 this. Welcome to moving upstream without a paddle, the podcast that helps develop 36 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:57.240 a mindset for success. I'm your host, Dr Garrett Coggins, but most 37 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.759 people call me Dr Chet. Now I've dedicated my life to helping others understand 38 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:06.879 that if you have the proper mindset, you can propel yourself up that proverbial 39 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:12.240 stream with no paddle needing. After constantly feeling like you're going against the flow 40 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:16.039 but you're never happy with your results, it's really time to flip your mindset. 41 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.719 If that's something that you're ready to do, you've come to the right 42 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:38.240 place. Now let's get to it. Hello, Tyler, welcome to the 43 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:44.560 show. Oh, dctor Garrett, I am looking forward to this one. 44 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:49.560 I am too. I go back her bio a lot and we were just 45 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:53.199 brigefly. We're talking for and that's not even know the full bio. That 46 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.919 when we were introduced, that I read. It's it's it's very entertaining and 47 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.080 we were saying that this is going to be an enter teeny discussion and I 48 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:05.280 just the personality that exudes just from you, know, the things that you 49 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:08.879 sent me and what you've written. I just I know this is gonna be 50 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:13.120 true, but I really like, Um, to start off the show with 51 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.600 letting you take the center stage, because it's you are the reason why we 52 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:20.399 are all here. So if you don't mind just taking the MIC and kind 53 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.639 of give it this just more of a deeper background than what I could possibly 54 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.439 do. Is just that's your brief bio. Yeah, no, sure, 55 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:30.839 and I'm not going to take up much more time because the bio covers it 56 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:36.040 all pretty good. But I uh, I'm a former child actor. Started 57 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:40.360 on stage when I was six years old. I went to a fine arts 58 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:44.480 high school. As you had mentioned, I had a medical incident when I 59 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:48.399 was seventeen that left the left side of my body paralyzed. Took over a 60 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:55.199 year of really intense physiotherapy in order to get that back. A lot of 61 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.920 that had to do with, as you mentioned, my mindset on that and, 62 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.639 more specifically, be be able to surround myself with people who had my 63 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:08.040 best interest at heart. Medical Professionals, friends, family and have a really 64 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:14.040 good support net that could keep me afloat when I didn't feel like it anymore, 65 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.480 who could push me forward, who helped me find the metrics to see 66 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:21.839 incremental change and and get better. And then, when the Nice thing is, 67 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:26.000 my face started working again, I was able to continue acting in film 68 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:30.360 and television. Stayed with that career for an additional seven to eight years and 69 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:32.680 then, at the right old age of five, after having been in show 70 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:39.920 business for twenty years, it's time to retire. I went back got engineering 71 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:47.839 degree, um or not a diploma, more specifically an engineering discipline at school 72 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:57.040 and College, started my own company doing aerial surveying and then moved from planes 73 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:00.680 to carts on the ground and doing interior more mapping, because planes are expensive. 74 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:08.160 Unfortunately, my business was about ten years ahead of the curve and there 75 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.920 wasn't a lot of demand and what we had to charge was significant, and 76 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:16.199 that that business unfortunately went under. But out of it I became a safety 77 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.759 professional, which is nice because starting the business we needed to put together a 78 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:26.279 safety program and a friend of mine encourage me to go along the safety route 79 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:33.600 and then doing safety and training people on how to give better presentations with a 80 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:39.800 safety aspect ended up leading to this wonderful career where now I don't have to 81 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:43.560 do the safety anymore, which is exhausting, and I get to train people 82 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.360 on how to public speak better, which is rewarding. And, as you 83 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.199 had mentioned, we've got the number one best seller out, which just came 84 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:55.120 out September seven, so everybody out there can get a copy of it, 85 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:59.319 and I would strongly encourage anybody who is listening if they want to, they 86 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.399 can check that out on bookshop dot org, because that's where you can find 87 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.959 every book or title that you want online, but connect you with your local 88 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:12.000 mom and pop retailer shop and that that does a lot to help out the 89 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.920 people who could probably use the help right now. So I don't care if 90 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:16.600 you're buying my book, but if you're buying books right now, bookshop dot 91 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.480 org would be the place to go. And that that's me and how I 92 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:27.360 came around security a sleeve, from performer two engineer to safety professional back to 93 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:33.240 performer and instructor. Now I love it. I love it and I truly 94 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:41.680 appreciate that you the bookshop dot org because it's the local right and people don't 95 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:44.199 do that anymore. We have these amazons that are out there, but there 96 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:47.279 are local mom and pop bookshops there. I mean there's some here, because 97 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:51.879 I'm in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and there's some that I've been here forever 98 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:58.879 that we're almost shut down, like they were just poor richards was a place 99 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:03.560 that we as college students would always go and hang out and have coffee, 100 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.399 but it was a bookshop and it was just but then, you know, 101 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.439 covid hit and destroyed, almost destroyed, that place. So I'm glad that 102 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.160 you pushed that out there because it's so important to support your local community. 103 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.480 And nothing against Amazon, but they have better that. They're not going anywhere. 104 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.639 So Jeff Bezos just flew to space. He has enough money. We 105 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.720 don't need to line his pockets anymore. If you're buying books, and as 106 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.160 you said, they're the people who really need it the most and they're the 107 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:33.919 ones who are in business for a passion. You know, like you don't 108 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.279 go into a bookstore because you're looking to make money. You're you're there because 109 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.480 you like the atmosphere, you believe in literature. You know there's there's something 110 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:48.440 about hard bound book that it's it's magical to me, I mean, and 111 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.519 I'm a kid who spent a lot of time in a library, so uh, 112 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.200 to me it's are the most wonderful places on the earth, especially ones 113 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.799 like you described, where you've got the mom and pop shop where you can 114 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.519 go, you can pick up your book, you can get a nice artistan 115 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.480 coffee, have a relax chat with friends, browsed through the most recent title 116 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.240 that has piqued your interest, and and that's that's why I think more people 117 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.879 need to go to bookshop dot org. It's the same online shopping experience. 118 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.679 Your book just doesn't come to you from a drone. So right, right, 119 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.039 well, let's let's go backwards. We'll go back, not backwards, 120 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.000 let's go back to you, because there are some points that you, you 121 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.840 Um, you put out when you were going when you were paralyzed, and 122 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.759 you were talking about the support that you had, and I like that piece 123 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:41.360 because it's important in the mindset, realm right too. All too often we 124 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:46.960 go through these journeys and and we feel like we're going it alone, you 125 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:54.440 know, especially those who are chasing entrepreneurialship or just this these high dreams that 126 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.679 are these audacious goals. Right, they just feel out there alone, but 127 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.399 you don't have to be. You can get the support that you need. 128 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:07.679 That really helps develop the mindset, because that self talk that happens when you 129 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.960 feel like you're just in this world trying to do this and there's no one 130 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.159 else and that thing, it's it's a lie, because there's so many other 131 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.879 people out there. There are there to support and we just need to find 132 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:24.200 that support. So talk about how that really did boost your mindset and help 133 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:30.960 you um progress forward, because, I mean, being paralyzed on one side 134 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:33.240 could not have been a fun experience for you. So I'm sure there was 135 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.039 some self talk going on there going out, this sucks and and where do 136 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.679 I go from here? And and and all that kind of jazz that happens 137 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:46.120 with us. Yeah, no, it was. It was a real and 138 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:54.279 it and it was instant too. So, New Year's Eve, designated driver, 139 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.600 out having fun with my friends, getting everybody home. I was out 140 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:07.200 till morning. Yeah, ended up bringing a friend's sister home with me who 141 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.080 probably shouldn't have been out that late. Probably shouldn't have slept over at a 142 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:16.919 boy's house, for sure, and her parents finally tracked her down about in 143 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:18.879 the morning when everybody was like, well, where is she? There was 144 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:24.159 a Welsh went with tyler and so they phoned the house and mom came in 145 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.919 screaming you have to drive her home, and I thought I probably should. 146 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:33.919 Yes, but then I went to get up and you know when you fall 147 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:39.960 asleep on your arm and you get that numbness that and just before you get 148 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:41.480 the shooting pain that comes from it, it's just straight and numb. You 149 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.559 can't feel anything. That's what I woke up to and I figured I had 150 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.360 just slept weird. It was New Year's Day. But New Year's Day I 151 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:56.399 woke up and nothing on this side was working and I didn't really realize it 152 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:03.000 at first until I got up and I was brushing my teeth um and all 153 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.759 the toothpaste was just pouring out the side of my mouth and it was just 154 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:11.559 folding and I couldn't I couldn't stop it from coming out. I didn't understand 155 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.519 why. And Mom's looking at me, going, are you drunk? I 156 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:16.759 said no, my I don't drink. She's like no, I know you 157 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.879 say that, but are you really? I said no, really, mom, 158 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.879 I I was out all night. I was the D D. I'm 159 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.960 I am sober as a judge, but this is not working. And then 160 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:35.039 she really took a good look at me and my eye was drooping, my 161 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:39.639 mouth was drooping, I couldn't really move my arm and when I was walking 162 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:46.080 it was in this weird kind of shuffling perambulation. And the worst part is 163 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:52.559 is I drove a Honda accord at the time, five speed manual. My 164 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.879 leg wasn't working so I couldn't clutch. So I'm trying to get this girl 165 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.240 little and finally a mom was like, okay, I'm getting you to the 166 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.440 hospital, then I will get her home and then I'll come back and check 167 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:09.480 on you. And Uh, and that's when the whole ordeal really began to 168 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:16.240 unfold. And when you're seventeen and you've been a performer in film and television 169 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.399 at that point, for me eleven years, my whole career had been mapped 170 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.039 out for me. I knew what my life was. I was going to 171 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.399 go to New York or I was gonna go to L A. I was 172 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.879 gonna be on Broadway or I was going to be in Hollywood. I was 173 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:28.200 going to be a star name in lights. I was going to be a 174 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:35.200 performer and all of that got ripped out from under me New Year's Day because 175 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:39.039 when you're facing your body don't respond to the commands and the cues that you 176 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:46.480 wanted to do, it is really hard to be an actor and I had 177 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:52.120 to withdraw from the musical that I was in. Um just everything kind of 178 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.639 looked like it was tunneling in around me and I got very, uh, 179 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:01.159 single mindedly focused on the fact that of all these things that I couldn't do, 180 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:11.600 and by Grace and divine influence, I have um a very large number 181 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.279 of influential men in my life who all kind of stepped up after my father 182 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:24.559 passed away when I was six, to be father figures, and Dr Robert 183 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:30.639 Corbett and his wife, Dr Joanne Corbett, Bob and Joe really stepped in. 184 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:35.440 Um. They were kind of the first to try and assess me because 185 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:39.960 when I was initially at the hospital New Year's Day and the subsequent week or 186 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:46.039 two of tests afterwards, they really couldn't determine what I had. They wanted 187 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.759 to be able to rule out a stroke but couldn't, but they also couldn't 188 00:14:50.759 --> 00:15:00.320 confirm it. Looking back later it was likely more a palsy than anything else, 189 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.720 just to the fact of my age and how I could overcome it. 190 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.440 But they couldn't confirm that as a diagnosis either. Nobody could say why my 191 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:09.799 face and my body wasn't working. They just knew that it wasn't. If 192 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:13.720 it had only affected my face, it would have been likely more likely to 193 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:18.039 be diagnosed as a palsy, but because I had the rest of my body 194 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:24.039 impacted, AH, they don't know and probably never will. I don't. 195 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:31.919 I mean I'm not seeking those answers now. But Bob stepped in and really 196 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:37.240 guided me on mindset. You know, one of the first things he said 197 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.919 is listen, if we don't know what it is, then you we there's 198 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.720 no determination of if you can or can't get better. So let's assume that 199 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:48.720 you can, because we don't know that you can't. You know, if 200 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.600 it was x, Y or Z, you might be permanently like this. 201 00:15:54.080 --> 00:16:00.679 But since we don't know, you don't know, and that unknown is probably 202 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:04.120 your greatest asset. And that was one of the first times somebody really started 203 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:08.399 working on mindset with me. And you know he was. He was great 204 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:17.639 in finding Um the metrics for me to hold onto. You know, he 205 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:19.960 would, particularly when we were doing testing on my face. You know, 206 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.879 there was a time where they would use one of those really sharp pin wheels, 207 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:30.360 looks like a very small pizza cutter, and he runned across my face 208 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.960 and I'd go allow, wow, wow, out, no, no, 209 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:38.480 yeah, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. And you know, 210 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:42.399 because it was hemispherical like that, that right side I could feel I 211 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:45.639 could do everything, but the left side I couldn't. And then slowly and 212 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:51.000 gradually that line started to change. I did start to get feeling back or 213 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:56.360 I could move myself in different ways or my Um grip strength would start to 214 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:02.200 increase. And just being able to know that, from last week to this 215 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.640 week, these were the changes and to be able to track that progression and 216 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:11.799 know that I was getting better has impacted basically everything I've done ever since. 217 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:17.440 At that point I started tracking everything. I started tracking the auditions that I 218 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:23.680 would do. So I can tell you, from seventeen to every day I 219 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:27.319 went to an audition, what I was wearing, who the casting director was, 220 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:32.319 if it was a film, television or commercial role, time of day 221 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:36.519 that it happens, if or I did or did not eat prior to the 222 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:40.119 audition, if I exercise prior to the audition, like I knew all kinds 223 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:41.599 of things because I was like, what is the secret sauce to being able 224 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.799 to work? Because when it was taken away from me and I was told 225 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:48.559 that I wouldn't act again, that was one of the biggest motivating factors that 226 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.039 I had. And when I was able to get back in front of the 227 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.200 camera, when I was able to get back up on stage, that's when 228 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:00.200 I appreciated it more than ever and I was never letting it go. And 229 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.519 I know the reality of being a working actor and I wasn't going to be 230 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:08.599 somebody who was struggling for less than minimum wage and never making a go of 231 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:15.640 it. And so, for basically from the time I graduated high school until 232 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:21.000 I was twenty five Um, I was a full time working actor, definitely 233 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:25.960 earning more than minimum wage, very solid day player and and was on set 234 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:29.240 very regularly, and I owe a lot of that to the fact that I 235 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:32.480 was able to find out what the secret sauce was. Who should I be 236 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:34.480 submitting who should I not be submitting to? How long do I need to 237 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.160 redescript? All of these things came into play, and a lot of that 238 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:48.880 came from the lessons that I learned at seventeen trying to regain the functionality of 239 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:52.839 my body and the mindset, lessons that Bob and Joe and everyone else that 240 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.680 was around me, my mom, my friends, helping support me. It 241 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:06.559 was critical to my covery and and it's so important that just that that launch 242 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:08.960 right from where he where he said. He's like, let's because most, 243 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:14.799 most will just get in those positions and let's just start focusing on the what 244 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.000 was me aspect. Right, but just it seems like just that one little 245 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.119 statements like we don't know what it is, so let's just be positive about 246 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:30.240 this, let's let's go for the right the right Um approach and and just 247 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.160 believe that something's gonna Happen Right, that you're just going to get better. 248 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.680 And obviously it did and that's great. But I think that when when we 249 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:40.880 have people, when we have mentors and we have, uh, those figures 250 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:45.880 in our lives that put us on that path, it does tend to build 251 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.880 up every aspect, other aspects of our lives, and it's I think it's 252 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:55.960 it's awesome that you took that and you built this whole. It was a 253 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:57.960 lesson learned, like yeah, this sucks, but what am I gonna learn 254 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:04.519 from this? I think that's the key point to failures or circumstances that we 255 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.759 get tossed into is is it's out of our control sometimes, but cool. 256 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:12.720 But what is in our control is how are we going to respond to that? 257 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:18.039 And I love the way you responded and how you utilize that to push 258 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.640 yourself forward in your acting career. And I mean in the bio I didn't 259 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.240 live. There's a list like you're out there, man. That is like 260 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.160 it's it's in the description, will be in the podcast notes, but some 261 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.319 really awesome TV series and movies that that you are a part of, and 262 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:38.480 so I love that. That is how you transition through that that portion of 263 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:42.000 your life well. And the Nice thing is is I I had been used 264 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:47.400 to that. I mean as an actor, one of the Um the biggest 265 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:52.000 words that you hear is no, like no, you're not getting that rule, 266 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.039 and in fact you don't even hear it you go a new audition and 267 00:20:56.079 --> 00:21:00.559 then you just you either hear that you've got it or you never hear again. 268 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:08.880 And being used to that, um it was probably helpful for me too, 269 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.319 because I never looked at a lot. There's people who look at it 270 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.359 as rejection. You were rejected, they didn't like you, they didn't want 271 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:18.839 you, you weren't good enough, you weren't talented enough. I've been blessed 272 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.640 to be on both sides of the camera, so I've been both a performer 273 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.440 in front of camera and on stage, but I've also helped produced shows, 274 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:33.200 I've helped direct shows and I know I've been a reader in the room for 275 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:41.039 casting directors and I know from that experience that talent isn't the thing that they're 276 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.680 looking for. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but if you didn't have talent, 277 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:49.519 you wouldn't have gotten the audition. Like you wouldn't have even been given 278 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:53.079 the opportunity. The fact that you were given the opportunity is proof that you 279 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:59.960 have talent. Now it's the mystical everything else. Are you the right high, 280 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:03.359 right weight, right eye color, right hair color? Do you have 281 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:07.640 the right accent? Are you able to do the right accent? Do you 282 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:11.920 fit with the other cast? You know if they've cast somebody who a leading 283 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:18.000 actress who is five eight or five nine, she's probably gonna look awkward up 284 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:22.960 to me, because I graciously list myself at five eight and the reality is 285 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.599 I'm probably five seven in a little bit, a hundred and thirty five pounds. 286 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:30.240 So if you don't get somebody who is slight, I'M gonna look ridiculous 287 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:34.279 next to them. And depending on you know, if I'm not the leading 288 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:40.480 role, they're going to cast around the lead, not around me, and 289 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:44.119 so there's a lot of things that go into play that that are so outside 290 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:47.079 of my control, so outside of my sphere of influence, that all I 291 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:49.160 can do is, as you said, focus on what I can do and 292 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:52.480 my reactions to them. I never got. You know, I know people 293 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.359 who get mad at casting directors. You know, I've been to five auditions 294 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.400 with her and she hasn't guy. I haven't even gotten a okay. Well, 295 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:06.400 if that's the attitude you're going into the room with, there's probably her 296 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:11.759 reason you're not booking and yet she's bringing you back. So you've got to 297 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.160 have the talent. The talent is there, or they just, especially with 298 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.039 that kind of attitude, they just wouldn't bring you back. You'd get blacklisted 299 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.000 so quickly. And so for me I just realized, you know what, 300 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.240 they're my friends, they're on my side, they brought me into the room. 301 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:27.599 They don't want their time wasted. So I have to just do my 302 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:32.599 best. I prep the best that I can and give my best performance that 303 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:37.319 I can and then everything else is outside of my sphere of influence and that 304 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:42.559 has served me going forward. You know, in my business relations, in 305 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:48.000 the entrepreneurial things that I've tackled over the last five, ten years. I 306 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:52.799 mean I run three companies right now and I've had a fourth, one, 307 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:56.640 fifth, two beyond the three that I have going right now to have failed 308 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:03.519 miserably. Well, we're excellent learning opportunities because I know what not to do 309 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.680 and subsequently my three that I have going right now are thriving. But they 310 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.799 wouldn't be if I hadn't learned the lessons from that. So there's always there's 311 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.839 always a lesson to learn. There's always grace in the events that happened in 312 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:21.839 our life. You know, I my father passing away was tragic. It 313 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:26.599 drastically altered the course of my life. But if it weren't for it, 314 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.920 I would have never gotten on stage. If it weren't for it I wouldn't 315 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:41.319 have had the extreme number of mentors in my life that I did because everybody 316 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:47.039 in my I grew up in a very small town in rural Alberta, and 317 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.799 everybody stepped up to support my mom. You know, they say it takes 318 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:56.279 a village to raise the children, while I had an entire town and you 319 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:00.039 know, so many men and women stepped up to the plate to help me 320 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.720 and guide me and be there for me and help me with things. You 321 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:07.200 know, get me into hockey so that I could play because mom couldn't afford 322 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:12.680 the gear. Um Get me into baseball, get me out and playing music. 323 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:17.680 I started drumming because of some of the guidance and mentorships that I had. 324 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:25.640 So all of those things happened because my father passed away and there was 325 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:30.920 a void to fill and because of that, Bob and Joanne were very large 326 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.920 parts of my life and so when I needed them the most, in my 327 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.160 darkest time, they were already there, they were already prepped. We had 328 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:42.599 a pre existing relationship. They knew who I was and that is incredible grace. 329 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.759 So I look at all the events that have happened in my life and 330 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:51.400 it's, you know, it's a series of dominoes that are set up on 331 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:55.440 a string and if one was taken away, the whole thing would not cascade 332 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:57.799 the way that it has right now. And I need each one of those 333 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:02.759 events to be where I am it now. And so it's finding Um the 334 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:07.400 lessons in why those dominoes were placed in the area that they were, in 335 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.200 the orientation that they were and why they've fallen the way that they have. 336 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:17.480 And for me, just piecing not together is my my daily challenge, but 337 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:19.680 it's also my daily reward when I when I figure out the lessons. 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If you're 345 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.240 finding value in this podcast, you should really check out where it all began. 346 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.680 See, I wrote the book moving up stream without a paddle as a 347 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:19.799 guide to develop the foundation for a successful mindset. Learn what I believe to 348 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:25.319 be four of the most fundamental principles to find success in any endeavor. And 349 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:30.119 if you apply these principles in your own life, you will indeed find that 350 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:37.920 you can move up stream with no paddle needed. Get it on Amazon today. 351 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:44.759 Well, and I like that piece too, is that's that's that success 352 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:48.359 stacting in my mind. And so, well, what's what's? What's the 353 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.680 success? And that will I learned a lesson. Amy, at least I 354 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.400 learned it and I didn't have to go through that, that whole lesson one 355 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:59.119 more time. And but, and I the other little pieces that you put 356 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:03.119 in there to your attitude that you had um in in these casting calls. 357 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:08.599 and and how someone come to the same casting director and and but there is 358 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.799 an attitude then a lot of people don't understand that too, like the energy 359 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.000 that you're putting out. Um, even though you have the talent, they 360 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.279 may not have been Lin the VIBE. And so if you but with since 361 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.960 you go into these things with this this high energy and this high vibration, 362 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.680 that's you're like yeah, man, this is cool, you're my friend and 363 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.039 and you're here to support that's that's that's a connection. That um is not 364 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.279 seen, but it's definitely felt, and sometimes you can't just you can't pinpoint 365 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.279 that. So I feel like maybe a lot of those other guys are shooting 366 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.200 themselves in the foot with the attitude that they came into that with a what's 367 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.839 cool with you? As you you learned that and that was again that lesson, 368 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.480 that tool for your tool belt for when you transition from acting to now 369 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:55.359 go into the entrepreneurship. So you had this attitude going into that and still 370 00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.720 lessons learned. And you have the two companies that failed miserably. But what 371 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:02.799 kin I pull from that? Because I'm not done, my life isn't over. 372 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.559 I still need to progress forward. So these are really good lessons for 373 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.240 the listeners to hear because it's it's it's quantifiable. But when more people come 374 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.240 out and start saying these things that look, we see it in memes all 375 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.000 the time. It's an inspirational quotes. It is the failures are lessons and 376 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:23.000 and look at how to to utilize that. Well, now here's a real 377 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:29.960 world of real world example on how that works and why it works and and 378 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.480 that it does work well and I think what you the word that you use, 379 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:41.359 quantifiable, is the most important. I love metrics. Again, I 380 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.359 have an engineering mind which is warped because I also have a performance mind. 381 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.480 So, trust me, I am the odd man out in my engineering circles. 382 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:56.079 Um, there's some dry characters where I used to work. But you 383 00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:02.000 know, I like the numbers, I like to know and it helps me 384 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.200 with my tracking, because that's the other thing too. I knew statistically when 385 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.400 I was acting that I was booking one in eight auditions. So if I 386 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:11.720 go on a streak where it was twelve or thirteen or fourteen auditions and I 387 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.359 hadn't booked, I'd go, okay, great, that means I'm gonna I'm 388 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.680 statistically bound for like the next two or three to really fall into place. 389 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.720 And you're right, the energy is palpable. It's the thing that I missed 390 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:30.039 the most right now, coming to you from my blank gray void, you 391 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:36.799 know, is that I don't have that room to have energy in and I 392 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:40.880 have. I have found that Um, as good a performer as I'd like 393 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.640 to think that I am, and statistically I have a resume to back that 394 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:52.839 up. I'm booking less in these virtual casting calls because you just get no 395 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.720 sense of my personality. You know, I have a literally a five second 396 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.160 slate where I get to say hi, my name is Tyler Foley, I'm 397 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:07.359 represented by Roxanne and I'm reading for the role of whatever, and that that's 398 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.960 not enough to know who the essence of me is. But you get me 399 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.680 in a room and while they're setting up and the cameraman's fiddling around and casting 400 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:19.200 directors asking how your day is, they get they know you and and so 401 00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.400 that's that's been really missing from this. I think I've had I'd have to 402 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:29.559 check back, but it's fifteen or sixteen auditions in the last year and I've 403 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:34.519 literally booked one day player role and the likelihood that I ever actually make the 404 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.359 show, I'm paid for it, so I'm happy, I don't mind. 405 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:44.720 But the likelihood that anybody actually sees me in that performance is a about five 406 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.640 based on how that role went. So you know, there it's not the 407 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.599 size the role, it's the it's the attitude of the actor and and I 408 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.640 was so gracious grateful to be on that set. It's a show that I've 409 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:01.200 been trying to get on for literally fifteen years. So yeah, day player 410 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.359 role, but I got to say that I was on it. It's tact 411 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.759 upon my resume. Now I've booked a thing and maybe, maybe they'll start 412 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.279 to come through the way that they used to. But I also know that 413 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.079 I'm missing this, I'm missing the connection and I bet when I get back 414 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:20.200 into the room, well, I'll slay it then, I don't doubt it. 415 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.039 Let's let's what was the transition like for you then, because you came 416 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:30.480 out of acting and you went to and I love your analytical because you so. 417 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.279 I have my my doctor is actually in computer science, and so it's 418 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:37.960 the same as far as computer science guys go. I have a personality that 419 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.759 then, and that's that's I mean, it's it's not, it's not. 420 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.160 That dry mop syndrome of computer guys is starting to go away a little bit, 421 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:51.039 but it's still very prevalent in in the world. But so I love 422 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.720 that that piece. But how was the transition from going from acting to to 423 00:32:53.880 --> 00:33:00.039 now doing something different? Like again, you have the attitude, you of 424 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.559 everything that was caring carrying with you. So how did you apply that really 425 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:06.480 when you were when you were making that transition to a new career field. 426 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.279 Well, the thing is is, when you're a performer, you're always a 427 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:15.119 performer. Like that's like you can you put me onto you know, podcasts 428 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.000 and we can promote whatever. You talk about the business, talk about the 429 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.839 book. I'm still gonna be me, I'M gonna be my personality and I'm 430 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:25.559 gonna come through shining as a performer always. And that was one of the 431 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.680 first lessons that I learned from a business perspective is when you try to be 432 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:37.720 something that you're not, it reads false right away. And I can't be 433 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:43.279 worried about what my clients think about me. I can't change my personality because 434 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.200 my clients are going to figure it out at some point and if they don't 435 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.920 like it, they weren't the ideal client for me anyways. You can't. 436 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.799 You can't get everyone. It's the same as an audition, like you just 437 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.400 you can't all the work out there is so an abundance of work out there 438 00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:04.119 if you look and and there's enough to share that I don't need to book 439 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.719 every client because, you know, my life would get really chaotic and hectic 440 00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:12.039 and it would be stressful if everybody came to me. I wouldn't be able 441 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:17.360 to serve the world. Um. So I learned very quickly not to temper 442 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.199 who I am, to embrace who I am, that those who appreciated my 443 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.880 personality, we're going to work with me and work with me well and like 444 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.599 it back, and those who didn't were not my ideal clients and I didn't 445 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:36.039 and the beautiful thing about it is then I stopped wasting energy trying to attract 446 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.800 them, and that has been one of the greatest gifts that I've ever been 447 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:46.480 given, is the freedom to not have to chase every potential lead, because 448 00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:53.000 that's all they are. They are leads and they're not not every lead is 449 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:59.400 going to translate into business for me, and I like that. I like 450 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.599 the twenty rule. I like generating eight percent of my income from the clients 451 00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.239 that I work with, because those are the ones that I'm going to focus 452 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:08.239 on, those are the ones that are going to get the majority of my 453 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:12.360 time, they're the ones that are going to get my focus and my energy, 454 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.760 and that frees me up to have this other to explore all the different 455 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:22.679 things that I do. I mean, I'm wearing so many hats. I've 456 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:28.800 got three businesses going Um, two of them. Thankfully, I have a 457 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:35.599 very passive input into Um. The speaker training is my active focus and it's 458 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.800 great because now I get to help people tell their stories, get their messages 459 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.760 out, find out why they were put on earth like that's some of the 460 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.199 funnest things, things that I get to do with my job right now is 461 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:51.159 help people figure out what is my story, Why am I here? WHO 462 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.840 CAN I help? And I mean that's where I'm getting the reward. Running 463 00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:00.559 the safety business has been rewarding in that I know that I'm keeping people safe 464 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:08.480 and as somebody who lost their father to a workplace incident, nothing drives me 465 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:15.320 and motivates me more than making sure that somebody else's spouse gets home that day. 466 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.480 But it's exhausting because nobody likes safety and you're you're just, you're you're 467 00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:24.039 preaching to the choir. You know when you find it that nobody's nobody's listening, 468 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:30.840 you might as well be talking into my empty void room. And so 469 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:35.880 to be able now to empower people to find their own message, to find 470 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:42.000 their own story, to find their own motivation, that has been rewarding and 471 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.000 then some, and it just it just feels good. It feels good every 472 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:50.119 time I can see somebody's lightbulb go off and see them click and gain confidence. 473 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:54.360 That's the thing. S of Americans claim that they have this mysterious fear 474 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:58.840 of public speaking, and the reality is they don't. The majority of the 475 00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.920 people who feel that they have this fear of public speaking aren't afraid to speak 476 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.039 in public, or they would never be able to order food in a restaurant. 477 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.000 But they do have a fear of judgment. And so getting people to 478 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.519 overcome that and then find the confidence to take the stage and really express themselves 479 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.960 and find out who they are, to like, be authentic and find out. 480 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.719 For me, I hate the word authentic. It's so overused it just 481 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:28.400 drives me insane. I think authenticity is synonymous with self awareness and so having 482 00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.960 people really figure out who they are at their court, what drives them, 483 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.079 what motivates them, what their values are, and then be able to have 484 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:39.159 them articulate that to another group and have impact. Oh it lights my heart 485 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:45.199 up every time. I love that. You said that that because authenticity it 486 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:50.559 is when you are because we're always showing up as what we believe to be 487 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.599 authentic. I mean we're we're trying. And there are some cases, like 488 00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:57.199 you said, if you go to a job interview and you you try to 489 00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.960 put on whatever, but and okay, so those are the rare cases. 490 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.880 But even still we're still showing up as as authentic as we know how to 491 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.960 be, because that that's where our self awareness is. And and I love 492 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:14.760 when people go through personal development journeys or personal discovery and and really working with 493 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.360 you know, people like you who are helping them to get on and and 494 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:22.039 express their voice, express their story. There's a power when they begin to 495 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:29.760 realize who they are right and and so I love that you distinguished the authenticity 496 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.639 is as being just just become more self aware, and that's that's the key. 497 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.000 But people don't don't go on those research journeys. They don't. They 498 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:45.199 don't know they've and we're just we we've become complacent to where we're at and 499 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.599 and we I always get very intrigued to people like why I feel so exhausted 500 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:54.000 all the time and this and then because your body really wants your spirit, 501 00:38:54.039 --> 00:39:00.559 everything about you wants to grow, it wants to expound, expand and you're 502 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.639 forcing it to constrict it into place. So no wonder you're tired. It's 503 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.559 really interesting when you begin to self awareness piece, and this is where you 504 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.079 know your story is coming into play too, and how you feel. So 505 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.800 because that's what you're doing. You're helping people do that because you've done it, 506 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.320 and you're like yes, you're with me, we're riding this way together 507 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.480 and you're both are growing and you feel free. You don't feel exhausted anymore. 508 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:28.320 You feel just rejuvenated and energized because you are doing that self awareness, 509 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:34.800 that self discovery. It's an amazing thing that people don't understand well and one 510 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.760 of my good friends, Jason Krauss, has a phenomenal book that I'm sure 511 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.239 you can pick up on bookshop dot org, called the science of success, 512 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.159 and one of the first things that he talks about in it he's a former 513 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.400 Olympic Bob slayer. So, forgive me, I'm from Canada, so winter 514 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.960 sports Um, and but he played football, Canadian football, but football nonetheless, 515 00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:58.800 three downs instead of four. And then when he finished with his Um 516 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:04.719 football career, he's really short and stocky and fast. He is lightning fast 517 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:12.800 and he was just made to pilot a Bob's way. And in his book 518 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.119 he talks about how you can really only be in two states. You're in 519 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:22.440 growth or contraction, and contraction is death and there are times where you need 520 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:28.519 something to contract and die like. It's not a thing to fear necessarily, 521 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.599 but you it's better when you are consciously aware of what you're rejecting and what 522 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:38.039 you're not nurturing and you're consciously aware of what you're accepting and nurturing, versus 523 00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:45.000 allowing random circumstance and unconscious biases uh to have these things propagate. Because, 524 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:52.320 again, rule, there are relationships that I shouldn't foster. They are energy 525 00:40:52.400 --> 00:41:00.239 draining, they are not financially lucrative Um, they just don't serve me and 526 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:05.400 subsequently, if they're not serving me, I can't possibly be serving them either. 527 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.000 So those are things, those are energies that need to contract, but 528 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.559 we need to be able to focus on those growth because, as you pointed 529 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.599 out, it's one of the two. You're either in growth or contraction, 530 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:19.599 and Jason's book runs it really, really well. Like I I understand the 531 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.119 concepts, but the way that he lays them out, step by step by 532 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:29.760 step in science of success is Um is just a genius thing, especially because 533 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:35.039 he comes from it from a performance athlete perspective. And now he's, you 534 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:40.880 know, he's a very um lettered coach and executive coach and he works with, 535 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:50.400 you know, very large name fortune, five C C suite executives and 536 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.480 UH and so, you know, I I trust the advice that he gives 537 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.000 because he's helping some great people find their greatness and be even better. So 538 00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.800 he it's it's a great book, but I love when he talks about it 539 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.159 growth versus contraction and that you can't be in the two states at the same 540 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.800 time and to be consciously aware of them versus subconsciously. Yeah, well, 541 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:12.599 let's since you brought up book, Let's Talk About your book. I mean 542 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.679 we briefly discussed about people know where to go, the right right place to 543 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.880 go, but let's talk more about what's in the book, what inspired the 544 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.280 Book and who is it? Who is it really for? So the book 545 00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:29.320 is not for. I can say who it's not for. It's not for 546 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:34.599 people who are already big name public speakers. They they, you know, 547 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:39.519 people who it's for the people who are afraid to get onto the stage and 548 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.039 for the people who know that they want to be on stage. But don't 549 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:49.119 know where to start. It's a real beginner handhold for people. It's thirty 550 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:55.599 five years of my experience compressed into ten chapters and gives very actionable advice. 551 00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.360 That's one of the things when I first started writing the book book, more 552 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:05.760 specifically when I first started performing the book, I wanted to make sure that 553 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:07.599 it was actionable, that people could read it, that it was easy to 554 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:13.599 digest and that they had things that they could implement right now, because otherwise 555 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.400 why read like if you if you can't do a thing out of the book, 556 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.360 if you can't implement something out of the book, there's no point in 557 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:24.679 reading that book. And the book actually came about through my training. So 558 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:29.920 I record everything because I'm a performer, so I don't go anywhere without a 559 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:34.159 camera. The beautiful thing about current society is that everybody has at least one 560 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.360 camera on them at all times, because they we've got cell phones and a 561 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.960 lot of the cell phones have fantastic lenses on them, like mine's got as 562 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:50.000 Zeiss Um Lens that that captures images and just a way that even my Webcam 563 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.280 can't, and this is an HD Webcam that I'm using, but my cell 564 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:58.679 phone actually has a better picture quality, and so I record everything that I 565 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.559 do and what we did was we took the training and all the video, 566 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:08.800 grab the Audio, transcribe that and then compiled it into segments that made sense 567 00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:15.679 based on how I train and how I conduct my workshops and my seminars and 568 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.719 my webinars and all of the training that I do. We compiled it into 569 00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:25.320 the book and and people seem to enjoy it. The Nice thing is is 570 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:32.039 that it's because it's transcribed from my audio. It's in my voice. It 571 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.440 makes me cringe when I read it because, Um, I think I'm articulate 572 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:44.000 and come across educated when I speak, and I think I do, until 573 00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.440 I see it down word for word for word, and then I go wow, 574 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.039 I would amend that and I was. I'm lucky that I had a 575 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.880 really good team behind me who were like no, no, it's your voice, 576 00:44:54.920 --> 00:45:00.480 trust us, trust us, trust the process. Keep it that way, 577 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.159 and that's been the main feedback from people is that is really easy to 578 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:08.320 read and they get a very clear sense of who I am and if they 579 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:13.360 want to work with me further after having read the book, because they know 580 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.559 what they're getting like. There's no surprise you get in a room. Live 581 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.679 with me. There's no surprise after you've read the book, and Vice Versa, 582 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.800 because you may ever notice that sometimes you'll go to one of those big 583 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.000 events and they got the big speakers and they're raw, Rah Rah, and 584 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:30.039 they're promoting you know, and you're like wow, this person is a genius, 585 00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:36.599 and then you pick up their book and the content is there but the 586 00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:42.280 context is different and you're like uh, it's a subconscious bias and you're like, 587 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.519 I don't know why this doesn't buy, but just something doesn't feel right 588 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.519 about it. The Nice thing is is that doesn't happen with my book. 589 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:52.679 Really, well, get me, that's just how it is. Right. 590 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.039 Well, that's good. Well, so what was? What's the telling about 591 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.000 the title? Because it's the power to speak naked. Um, the power 592 00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:07.960 to speak naked. By the way, this cover is banned by Jeff Bezos. 593 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:13.000 That's another reason to go um and shop for it on Bookshop Dot Org. 594 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.000 You can get it on Bezos site, but I can't advertise for it 595 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:22.639 because it doesn't meet their advertising content because it contains overt and graphic content in 596 00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:27.960 a sexualized manner. And facebook feels the same way. So I can't even 597 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.239 promote the book on facebook. But I like the cover. I think it 598 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:35.079 has impact, so I change the thing. Yeah, I love it, 599 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:37.239 but I don't know why we get so hang up, hung up on it's 600 00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.960 not like you're full frontal right there, but hey, you know, it 601 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.760 is what it is. So I mean cool. So, as the keynote 602 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:50.880 speaker goes, like you do have this really good persona, this this amazing 603 00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.239 persona, and I could see why, as a keynote speaker like, people 604 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.679 would really be drawn. So, like, I want you to come speak 605 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:04.519 to this and just your background Um just just makes that serve right, is 606 00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.800 like, because it's interesting how you apply everything that you've gone through, you 607 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:15.360 know, from from the being paralyzed to your journey through Um casting calls and 608 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:16.920 being, you know, the Child, the child actor, and then the 609 00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:22.199 adult actor and then the Um, the engineer aspect of you, and now 610 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.239 the teacher, coach person that helps people find their voice. And so I 611 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.519 can see that the appeal for people wanting to have you come talk. So 612 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:32.719 is that something that people can request from you? Be Like Hey, Tyler 613 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.199 meed, we have this event and I think you're gonna be an awesome speaker 614 00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:38.639 at it. And so how how do they get in touch with you? 615 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:43.360 To do that? The best way to do that is on Sean Tyler Foley 616 00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.639 Dot Com, and Sean is spelled the proper Irish way, s e a 617 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.280 N T U I L E R F O l e Y. Sean Tyler 618 00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.800 Folly Dot Com, and has all my socials there. It has Um, 619 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:58.880 all my contact information, how to book me, Um, how to get 620 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.199 into one of our works ops, whether they're live or prerecorded or virtual, 621 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:08.519 Um, and basically everything about me is on Sean Tyler Folly Dot Com. 622 00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.519 And for anybody who does go, we have a free gift for them if 623 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.119 they do visit the website. Right on the front page, above the fold, 624 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.440 there's a big banner called the method and if you click on the method 625 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:27.840 it's an eleven page booklet with five insider secrets that I've put together that are 626 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.519 very easy to use and will help anybody be a more confident public speaker. 627 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.760 And they don't have to pick up the power to speak naked to get those 628 00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.719 secrets. They can just go and get them free and if they like what 629 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:42.360 they here, then by all means go to bookshop dot org pick up the 630 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.840 book and see if that helps you in any way. And I am always, 631 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.920 always, always happy to do a corporate facilitation. I have a lot 632 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.239 of corporate clients who bring me in to work with their executives, to work 633 00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.480 with their management team and their supervisory team so that they're giving better presentations, 634 00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:01.440 because that's the worst thing about business and when you have to go into the 635 00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:08.039 boardroom and get a lot botomy like that, it's just unfortunate and it doesn't 636 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:13.840 need to be that way. I get that some of the information maybe isn't 637 00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:20.000 flashy like a Hollywood film, but there are ways that you can present any 638 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.960 data, any information, in a way that's compelling and make sense to your 639 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.960 audience and brings them in as opposed to pushing them away. So that's again, 640 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.440 I I love that. I love doing that, and that comes back 641 00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:37.559 to the safety background, because if you can't explain your messaging, if you 642 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:43.800 can't sell somebody on your idea or your program your employees are really spinning without 643 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.519 direction and that is one of the worst places for a company to be in. 644 00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:51.159 You Need Clear Direction. You need to be able to articulate what you 645 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.000 want out of your company and your vision and where it's going and why. 646 00:49:53.079 --> 00:50:00.719 You need that and you need those who viewed empowered to lead and and direct 647 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.960 that uh, to be able to do the same. And if the messaging 648 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:08.760 is offer and congruent, that's when things start to go really wrong really quickly 649 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:14.559 with businesses. So I love doing those corporate facilitations perfect well. I'm sure 650 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.280 that I don't know how many corporation guys are are gonna listen to it and 651 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.119 they're out there. So now they have it right. And Tyler, I 652 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.159 just I appreciate you so much for taking the time to come on and a 653 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:31.639 lot of really good insights in this conversation and just your your knowledge that you 654 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:37.360 have towards towards the mindset and how it's applied and in a lot of different 655 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.599 aspects is I think it's gonna be refreshing for people and that's going to really 656 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.679 help them. So I just want to say I appreciate you taking time and 657 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.679 and sharing this knowledge with my listeners. Um, it was. It was 658 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.079 a great conversation well and I enjoyed it, Garrett, and if any, 659 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:55.239 if everybody who was on live right now or who was listening later h enjoyed 660 00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.000 what you were doing with moving upstream without a paddle. I would strongly encourage 661 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.400 them. Right now, you're you're watching anyways, so just click the light 662 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:08.000 fucking give a share out or a comment. If you're listening to this on 663 00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:13.400 your podcast, whatever device you're listening to this on, whatever service you've downloaded 664 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.239 this from, do Garrett a favor give it a five star review, because 665 00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:21.920 it is not easy putting these things together. Um, and I know I 666 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:23.920 got value out of this conversation. I really enjoyed what we were doing here 667 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.920 today, Garrett. So if your audience is listening right now and they they're 668 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.760 getting value out of moving upstream without a paddle, then I would strongly, 669 00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.519 strongly encourage them. Stop what you're doing right now, because you're already on 670 00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.480 the device. Just hit pause. We'll be here, while we're wrapping up, 671 00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:44.480 we'll be here. You just hit that button like subscribe, five Star 672 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.079 Review, leave a comment, share with your friends, let them know, 673 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.360 get the word out, because if you're getting value out of it, that's 674 00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.360 the only way that Garrett's going to be able to get better guests than I 675 00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:57.320 on to give you as much value as we can. I appreciate that it's 676 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.079 it's my listen. I have the one is that I know just show up 677 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.960 all the time and this is how I always in it. And so again, 678 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.119 thank you, and I'll end it this way again, that I just 679 00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:09.559 appreciate the listeners so much because they do show up, they're constantly connected and 680 00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:15.320 I always say that when you're trying to shift mindsets and you're trying to to 681 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:20.480 to go through that personal development, that personal discovery is a continuous thing. 682 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:24.400 So you constantly have to keep yourself connected in in these aspects and listen to 683 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.440 the messages, like Tyler and other guts are on here. So, Um, 684 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.440 I appreciate you guys always showing up and, as usual, we were 685 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:37.719 going to be having another conversation real soon. Thanks for tuning in. If 686 00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.880 you've found value in this episode, the best thing you can do is to 687 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.760 subscribe, rate or review this podcast. If you would like to further investigate 688 00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:50.760 how you can Filip your mindset, feel free to contact me through my website 689 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.679 at www dot garrett goggins dot com. Can't wait to catch you on the 690 00:52:54.719 --> 00:53:05.039 next episode.