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Knowing Your True Self - Kristen MacDonald

Knowing Your True Self - Kristen MacDonald

Have you figured out who you really are? We as kids all the time what they want to be when they grow up and we literally create the mire of confusion, uncertainty, and pressure. These are the exact things that Kristen tries to avoid when working with people. She would rather be a guide helping the person to discover themselves by themselves. She heard her nephew answer someone that he wanted to be an engineer. She cringed and asked him “Why do you want to be an engineer?” He said he wanted to help people by building things. She says at least the help part of him wasn’t as limiting as being an engineer part of him. If Kristen scratches an itch in you and you would like to connect with her here’s how:

www.thedirectionofpurpose.com

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:07.400 Hey, Dr g here. Thank you for listening to moving upstream without a 2 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:11.160 paddle. I would like to work with businesses, authors, coaches and the 3 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:16.039 like who understand the importance of shifting perspectives to obtain the results we're looking for. 4 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:20.239 And please to announce that moving up stream without a paddle is now offering 5 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:25.160 commercial spots to be aired during the episodes. If you believe your organization would 6 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:29.239 benefit from advertising on the podcast. I would love to have you be a 7 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:34.280 part of this continuously growing show. Let's get connected and inspire the world together. 8 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:41.200 And, to your point, though, even even once you shift, 9 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:45.520 like you said, even Oprah Winfrey and others who you'd think have it together, 10 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:49.240 they've been through this, they're done there. There is no done. 11 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:54.039 You know, life will change, you will develop and change as a person 12 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:59.560 potentially, and to be able to have that, that assistance and that practice 13 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:03.280 and just somebody else to walk through it with you, Um, wherever you 14 00:01:03.319 --> 00:01:07.920 are on the journey, is is huge because, yeah, there's there's not 15 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:14.680 really a destination when it comes to personal development. Hello again, welcome back 16 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:19.920 to another episode of moving upstream without a paddle. have another awesome guest coming 17 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.480 up, but before I introduce her. I want to remind everybody that if 18 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:27.760 you are going through your personal development, personal discovery journey and you're looking to 19 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:34.439 be a part of a group of like minded individuals, I have created the 20 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:38.200 facebook group moving up stream without a paddle of the group as that platform for 21 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.879 you to come in and we can share wins and look at blockers and just 22 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:46.519 be a part of that community there that's going through the same journey you are 23 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:51.799 to really help inspire and help keep you moving forward, Um, in achieving 24 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.760 your goal. So head on over to the moving up stream without a paddle, 25 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.000 the group Um on facebook and get connected Um with that. Now I'm 26 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:07.319 going to introduce Kristen McDonald. Kristen is a purpose coach with a mission to 27 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:14.080 help people find the peace and clarity that comes from discovering their values and living 28 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:17.960 their purpose. She has to two core beliefs that drive her business, and 29 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:23.039 that's one. Each person has a unique set of gifts that the world around 30 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:29.120 them needs to experience and to each person has all the power that they need 31 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.360 to tap into their purpose and live in alignment with it. So her role, 32 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:37.120 then, as a coach is to create a safe place where her clients 33 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:42.319 can dive into who they are and start the transformation process. Her main focus, 34 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:46.680 then, is shifting the mindset of the youth from thinking, and I 35 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:50.680 love this, what they want to be when they grow up, to instead 36 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:55.800 who they want to be. Kristen switched her major in college from computer science 37 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:00.719 to psychology because she had a pretty good idea of what her purpose was. 38 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:06.159 Then, shortly after graduation it wasn't easy to find a job, so she 39 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:10.479 took a twelve twelve year detour, but now she's back on track and living 40 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:15.719 in her purpose, and so we're gonna find a lot about Chris Kristen coming 41 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:22.120 up right after this. Welcome to moving up stream without a paddle, the 42 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:25.560 podcast that helps develop a mindset for success. I'm your host, Dr Garrett 43 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:30.759 Coggins, but most people call me Dr g. Now dedicated in my life 44 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:35.680 to helping others understand that if you have the proper mindset, you can propel 45 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:40.520 yourself up that proverbial stream with no paddle needing. After constantly feeling like you're 46 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:46.319 going against the flow but you're never happy with your results, it's really time 47 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:50.520 to flip your mindset. If that's something that you're ready to do. You've 48 00:03:50.520 --> 00:04:09.159 come to the right place. Now let's get to it. Hello, Kristen, 49 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:13.039 welcome to the show. Hello, good morning, could be here. 50 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.800 How are you doing this this fine morning? I'm doing wonderful. I got 51 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:19.560 my tea, so I'm all set to go. Well, good, good, 52 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:25.839 well, that's good, because we're about to go right now. Like, 53 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.079 like I told you before, and and I love we actually have a 54 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:31.240 lot more in common than you probably know. So my my doctor is actually 55 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:36.079 in computer science. So very interesting there and now here. We both are 56 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:41.040 in this transformation journey with with Mindset, coaching and and I love how you 57 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:46.839 say a purpose coach, because that's that's really good description of Um, what 58 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.199 you were saying with your two core principles there. So, but how I 59 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:54.079 love to start off the show is to really get more of that background. 60 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:58.040 You know that that story that I can't really give just doing that quick bio. 61 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:00.279 So because people want to, they're gonna to connect with you in that 62 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:02.839 way, and that's what I love about the show, that we get those 63 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:06.879 connections. So if you don't mind to just take center stage there and and 64 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.240 tell us more about what you do while you do it and how you got 65 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:14.399 there. All Right, Um. Yeah, it really starts, I guess, 66 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.720 primarily in college. I went into college wanting to do web design, 67 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:23.879 Um, and so I went for computer science degree. I actually almost went 68 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:30.759 to Rose Holman Institute of Technology, female, UM, real tech, you 69 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.680 know school, because I was like hey, let's do this, Um, 70 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.240 and I'm really glad I didn't. There was something in the back of my 71 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:40.600 mind saying, but what if you change your mind? Then you have to 72 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:43.120 change your school. And so I was like, okay, let's go to 73 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.199 Liberal Arts School, let's stay open. And sure enough, two years into 74 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:50.439 computer science that had two bad internships and said, you know what, this 75 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.199 isn't great. I'd need to be working with people, not with things, 76 00:05:56.040 --> 00:06:00.439 Um, and switched to psychology. And I still remember my mom well, 77 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.800 my mom said Um, when I told her I was switching over the summer 78 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:06.160 and she's like how are you going to make a living for yourself? And 79 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:10.519 I was like, I don't know, I'll figure it out because at that 80 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.959 point I knew what I wanted to do and I wasn't going to be held 81 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:16.920 back by the practicalities of, you know, how am I going to make 82 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.480 a living? I'll find a way I can live simply, we're all good. 83 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:25.240 And so I did psychology. I came out. I had a job 84 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:30.639 for about a year and working with at risk youth and in a boarding school. 85 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.160 It was, oh my gosh, amazing. And I came out and 86 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:38.639 wasn't quite sure what to do. Do I go back and get my masters? 87 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:43.560 Do I go back and do, you know, working with Youth Again 88 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.399 and Boarding Schools? And I tried a couple of things. I really didn't 89 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.920 want my masters because I didn't want to be a licensed counselor. Um, 90 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:54.600 I wanted the time in that at that school kind of taught me. I 91 00:06:54.639 --> 00:07:00.079 want a little bit more freedom from restrictions Um that can come from, you 92 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.040 know, having all the legalities and and that kind of thing, that it 93 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:08.439 doesn't let you open up to who you are sometimes, especially with the youth. 94 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.360 Um. And so I wanted something a little more open and wasn't entirely 95 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.879 sure and couldn't find anything. So I ended up working at starbucks because you 96 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:21.120 got to pay the bill somehow, and then kind of lost direction. Um, 97 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:26.199 kind of was like I don't know where to go, where I'm heading, 98 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:30.399 what I actually want to do, and ended up working at an insurance 99 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:38.240 company. Now for the last almost eleven years, and it took covid honestly, 100 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:43.000 Um, it was during that time that I had the opportunity to kind 101 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.959 of slow down, I guess for a couple of years I'd known that it 102 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:47.800 wasn't quite the right fit, but I was looking for something different. I 103 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:53.639 got back into the data and analytics side and I love it and I'm good 104 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.800 at it and I can do it. In my mind thinks that way, 105 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.439 but it's not the best fit for me and there's something that I do a 106 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.879 little bit better. And I realized the connection is I like knowing how people 107 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.519 work and I like knowing how things work, and so that's the common thread 108 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.720 between them both, because it can sound a little weird, I'm sure you 109 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.920 know. You get like, wait, computer science and now you're doing coaching. 110 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.399 Where's the connection? And there is one, if you take it a 111 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:26.279 step lower and go okay, it's that understanding how things work. So Um, 112 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:31.000 yeah, I actually tried to be a travel agent, or was I 113 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:33.440 guess a travel agent, for a period of time, thinking hey, this 114 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.960 is my chance to get out. I love traveling, I love Disney and 115 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:43.000 I love helping people make their vacations better. And so I did that for 116 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:48.120 a little while and then covid hit and it was perfect timing because it got 117 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.480 me to stop and realize this is not what I want to do, this 118 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.600 is not the right fit. It's closer because I'm helping people, but it 119 00:08:54.679 --> 00:09:00.360 wasn't the right fit, Um. And so through some deep introspection in and 120 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:05.159 mindset shifting and everything, I realized I've got to get back to helping people 121 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.120 and not in a counselor way. And I had a couple of different things 122 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.000 come at me from a coach perspective and I went that's it. That's really 123 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.879 what I had done when I was working with the youth all those years ago, 124 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:20.039 but it wasn't called life coaching, but that's really what it was and 125 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.240 I was like, ah, this is a perfect fit. So I went 126 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:28.360 for my certification in January. I just finished classes Um to be a certified 127 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:35.559 academic life coach and have even over the last over this year, the last 128 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:37.879 six seven months, um, still trying to figure out exactly what I want 129 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:43.200 to do. I have the huge desire to shift the mindset of the next 130 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:48.759 generation, to stop focusing on the degree and the job and what you're going 131 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:54.039 to be when you grow up, which I hate that question, Um, 132 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:58.159 but to to look at it more broadly, because I think what we do 133 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:03.360 is we are getting this penpoint of a web developer or counselor, and there's 134 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:09.320 so many other jobs out there that can use your strengths that, instead of 135 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.000 going after this little pinpoint, you need to be moving in a direction instead, 136 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.799 based on who you are. Um. So, yeah, that's my 137 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.240 that's my primary mission. Um. I think I'm also looking to work with 138 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.399 those that are like me, who are dissatisfied and you're like, wait a 139 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.480 second, how did I get here? This is not what I want to 140 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:33.519 do. How do I shift? Yeah, well, and again, like 141 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:39.120 I said, there's there's pieces of us that are just very, very much 142 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.399 in line. So I also have this thing with the youth and I and 143 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:48.559 I like how you say that, though, because if, if we could 144 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:52.519 stop right because even if you do want to be a web developer or a 145 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.799 doctor or whatever, there there's a person and this is the piece that they 146 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:00.639 just don't learn, we don't, are not taught in schools that you have 147 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:05.600 to become a very specific individual to even be that. Right. So who 148 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.919 is it you want and then that begins to align things and and so I 149 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.120 love that piece and I also love that because again, and I said this 150 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.759 throughout the show, but I'll sit here, that as coaches and we go 151 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.279 through this, we go through this twelve year journey and and we're we don't 152 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.720 know what we want to do. I wanted to be an architect when I 153 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:26.840 first started. Then I got in the computer science and I love computer science. 154 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:31.200 Um, I love and that. Actually I own a Web Development Company. 155 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.519 So we're very much an so Um. But that, I love that 156 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.480 and I still like to do that. But then I went through the monk. 157 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.679 You went through them, those twelve years of well, is that my 158 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.679 passionate my purpose, my passionate purpose? Like I still have a purpose there, 159 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.240 but is it my passionate purpose? And yes, to a degree. 160 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.639 But like you and I, like a lot of coaches, once we go 161 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:54.519 through that, that stage and we come out the other side, we go 162 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.679 man, now I know and now I want to bring as many people with 163 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.399 me so that, like you're saying, those you want to reach out to 164 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.600 those who are like you, and that just comes with the territory as a 165 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.120 coach. But how powerful of a coach are you, because now you can 166 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.840 really say, look, I've done it, I've been where you're at. 167 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.840 Come with me, come on right, my coaels, you can do it 168 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:22.759 exactly. Yeah, and I take an interesting approach to coaching where I don't 169 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:28.559 want it to be about me. Um, I have I'm a really good 170 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.519 listener and I know that sounds weird to say about yourself, but Um, 171 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:37.960 too, I truly believe that the individual has all the power they need to 172 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:43.039 make the changes. I'm not doing anything special other than tapping into that power 173 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:46.960 and helping that person tap into that power. So, whether I've been there 174 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.679 or not or know the exact pieces, that's fine. I know how to 175 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:56.080 help you tap into your power and we go from there. Um, and 176 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:01.039 that's where I it comes from. My IRA realized I love being in the 177 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:07.240 background. Um, I remember one time my friend was getting married and I'm 178 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:11.159 just sitting in the background making sure everything runs smoothly for her. Yes, 179 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.399 she's my friends, but I was in you know, doing all these things 180 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:20.039 behind the scenes to just make everything smoother so that she had a great day. 181 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.039 And I'm like this is where I love to be, behind the scenes, 182 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.440 making things run smoother, and so that's the role that I take then 183 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:33.639 in coaching is all right this, but I'm tapping into you and you are 184 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.360 going to move forward and you were going to do all the work. Yes, 185 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.879 I know it's gonna be fun because I'm there to help and support and 186 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:46.159 say, Hey, you've got this Um but it's not something that pushes me 187 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:50.159 into the spotlight, and I love that because I want to help other people 188 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:56.440 shine. Yeah, well, that's I think, as coaches or or in 189 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.600 any supporting role, that that's the key point there is that it's not about 190 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.279 you and I, and I love how you say this too, that we 191 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:11.519 do already have everything that we need. Have you ever? I've experienced this. 192 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.559 So I just want to see. I like to make things quantifiable. 193 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.440 That's that's my jam right there. So that's probably that computer science piece that's 194 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:20.720 coming out right. What what can we do here? But have you ever, 195 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:24.519 with your your clients, start talking about something and they go, Oh, 196 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:26.919 I knew that. I don't know how I knew that, but I 197 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:33.960 knew that. Yeah, when they when they get those insights like, yeah, 198 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.960 I kind of knew that, but I've never said it out loud. 199 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:41.559 I've never actually acknowledged it. Yeah, I think that's the internal piece, 200 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.960 though, that piece that we already knew. We know these things and how 201 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.720 we pick up and it doesn't matter. Some some say that we're born with 202 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.960 that, that you know, knowledge already kind of ingrained into our DNA. 203 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.320 So we'll just say that you hear things big and how it happens is that's 204 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:00.759 we don't we don't care about the how. You Know Right, and the 205 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.919 coaching aspect of that point is just to bring that to the forefront and say 206 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.159 look, and then you know this already. I'm not telling you anything you 207 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:09.960 don't already know. You just need to apply it. And once they go 208 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.559 yeah, they start and that's when everything kind of clicks and then you just 209 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:18.320 sit back and just watch the magic happen. And I think that's the cool 210 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:24.039 piece because it is very much the client doing the actions and taking it, 211 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:26.960 because it's so easy to come in and say you need to do x, 212 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:30.039 Y and Z. I've been there, here's what worked for me. Just 213 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:35.000 follow these steps. It doesn't internalize and it makes it difficult sometimes. Um, 214 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:41.360 I my journey with losing weight has been crazy because I've had the moment 215 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:45.639 to realize that's my problem. I don't actually want to lose weight. That's 216 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.840 not my goal. And so when you can recognize, okay, what is 217 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:56.679 my actual goal and I can start taking steps towards that rather than what everybody 218 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.960 else is saying or what I should be doing, and it comes true. 219 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.799 And you know, whatever area of your life, when you realize your purpose 220 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:07.120 and how to how to align with that, it comes from that client, 221 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:11.720 from that person, it's gonna be so much stronger. It's so awesome to 222 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.600 watch. Yeah, no, I agree, I completely agree and I love 223 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:22.720 again so many great points. I mean because a lot of people are are 224 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:27.720 disappointed in the successes that they're that they want, but the goal isn't what 225 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.799 they want. So it's when you're not in line, you're not going to 226 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:34.240 get the success that you're looking for. But it's it's interesting if you look 227 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:38.480 at your story, right when covid hit and put things into perspective and all 228 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.639 of a sudden that now look at the shift that happened and look how things 229 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:45.679 just kind of, you know, I say automagically, but you know, 230 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:49.480 it's just because you're in line with your purpose and so the universe, God, 231 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.200 whatever label you want to put out, you just started getting the resources, 232 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:56.039 everything just falls into place because that's where you were supposed to be. 233 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:00.720 And again, that's another beautiful thing that just sit I can watch that unfold 234 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:04.680 with people. Yeah, and that's that's one thing I wrestled with Um with 235 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:11.039 coming to that idea of of asking for it and and putting it out in 236 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.200 the universe there with what you want. Is I was struggling to figure out 237 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:19.119 what I wanted last year. And so, yeah, if you ask for 238 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:25.680 something but you aren't, Ye, deep down it isn't really what you want, 239 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:27.640 of course it's not going to happen and things aren't going to fall into 240 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:33.359 place because you're not. There's this incongruence in you that yes, you say 241 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.640 you want it, but you don't really, and so your actions are doing 242 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:42.359 something different. And so being able to tap in and figure out, okay, 243 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:47.039 what, what is it really that I'm looking for? Strip away those 244 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:52.640 layers everything you should be doing or other people think or expectations, whatever it 245 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.079 may be, and you can say, Oh, this is what I want. 246 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.319 And once you find that that's worth the avenue start opening up, because 247 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:06.960 everything about you and what you're doing is awareness about it and ready for it. 248 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.400 Because you're aligned. Yeah. So going through your process, though, 249 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:17.079 and I want to just kind of touch on this, because people are stuck 250 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:18.720 in that. I was too. I mean that's it's a this is a 251 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:26.400 common story of twelve years of being, you know, wherever, lost or 252 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:30.880 whatever that looked like for you, right, but it's not a lot of 253 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.839 people. How do I know, even in that process. So when we 254 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:37.440 get through that twelve years and then covid hit, what was like this? 255 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.359 What was the trigger? Like you said, now you just got this a 256 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.519 Harmlem, but really, what? What was the trigger that gave you that 257 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:51.400 Aha moment? It had been building. Um, I knew that my day 258 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:56.440 job was not a right fit. I could do it and I could do 259 00:18:56.519 --> 00:19:00.720 it well, but it was draining. It didn't tap into my soul. 260 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.960 I didn't get to be who I am, Um. And since I found 261 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:10.680 ways to to bring myself, Um, things that are actually enjoy you know, 262 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.559 joyful, to work. Um. So I had this undertone and I 263 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:22.759 was seeking something else, something else that could replace my day job, that 264 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.000 I could spend my time, that I can make money on, that will 265 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:32.440 be make me happier, be more fulfilling, not be as draining. Um, 266 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.400 and I think with COVID and being a travel agent. Um, you 267 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:40.240 ask any travel agent. That was not fun. And so it was the 268 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:45.880 ultimate extreme of having to deal with cancelations and getting refunds and all of the 269 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:51.240 hecknic hectic nous that went with it. And I know it's not a normal 270 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.000 situation, but I realized, okay, this is this is not it, 271 00:19:55.440 --> 00:20:00.200 and it was truly the one moment. Then, with with all all of 272 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.160 this building. Um, I was listening to star talk with Neil de Grass 273 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:08.640 Tyson and he had Angela Duckworth on and she was talking about her book Grit 274 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:15.640 and the research that she's done and she made some comment that people generally quit 275 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.359 too early. Um, I think her her concept was that, you know, 276 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.799 normally you go from a big fish in a small pond, pond and 277 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:26.920 then you you graduate, things move and I are a regular size fish and 278 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.160 a big pond and that's the time when people kind of let go. And 279 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:34.960 I just stopped and I looked and went. I gave up. I really 280 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:41.640 did stop going after working and helping youth people in general, whatever it was, 281 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.759 because I couldn't find the right fit and I couldn't find a job and 282 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:51.039 I just had to make some money to live and I just quit. And 283 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:55.799 so it was that realization, because that is the most fulfilled I felt in 284 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:57.960 my life and I was like, I gotta get back to that, I've 285 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:03.359 got to turn this car around and point in the right direction and start heading 286 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.519 back that way, because that's really what happened. There are appropriate times to 287 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:10.680 quit and there are not, and that was one that. Yeah, maybe 288 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:11.920 I had to work at starbucks for a while, maybe I had to do 289 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:14.960 a couple of other things, maybe it would have been a three or four 290 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.240 year journey for me to figure it out, but I didn't need to completely 291 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:23.680 set that aside just to follow. Hey, I need to make a living 292 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:26.759 and, hey, this is a great company and Hey, I finally got 293 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.839 off, you know, from the call center and can do other things. 294 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.440 It's I was looking at the small steps. I was looking at the small 295 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:40.559 winds of moving from starbucks to a corporate with a whole lot better benefits and 296 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.279 then getting off the call center to working in an analyst position. Yes, 297 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:47.799 they were all improvements, but it still didn't happen to what I would need 298 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:52.480 in yeah, and it's it's Um. There always is that pulling this, 299 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.680 this in the back of your mind, like this is just not what I 300 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:57.799 want to do. And and you could be making very good money. But 301 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:03.960 if you if you're not satisfied in this holistic area, right, then you're 302 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:11.759 gonna just constantly feeling unsatisfied in in totality. So so it's it's interesting. 303 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:15.640 And then what the other interesting point is, and it seems like, but 304 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.880 very rarely is this the case, that you made this decision like well, 305 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.480 this is not what I want, I need to get back. And so 306 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:30.799 you make that decision. And, Um, then what? Because I think 307 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.319 that's what people like. Well, I'm gonna do this, but you followed 308 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.720 it by action, right. So again I'm gonna make this, this decision 309 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.400 I'm making, taking the shift, and like, you literally have to turn 310 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:44.440 the car around. You can say I'm gonna do something different, but keep 311 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.720 driving the same way. There's that action that you did. So then what 312 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:53.880 what happened? Then? I was I was wholehearted ready to go. Um, 313 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:59.559 so I started looking at anything and everything that I thought might make some 314 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.440 sense to be able to help people. Um, I went in a lot 315 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:08.079 of tangent directions that weren't quite what I needed to do. Um. But 316 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:14.359 it was all moving because I was so focused and said, okay, this 317 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:18.079 is it, I'm moving, even if, in this chaos of excitement of 318 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.039 getting back to what I want, I go slightly in the wrong direction. 319 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.920 Um. So I actually did Um. I did some training to be a 320 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:32.559 financial coach. That didn't really turn into much. Um. I actually enrolled. 321 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:37.200 Grand Canyon University has a life coach master's degree and I was like, 322 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.240 Oh, let's do this, Um. And it was really interesting. They 323 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:45.359 had an intro course just to get you into doing a master's degree, especially 324 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:49.480 for people that has been a long time, and one of the things that 325 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:52.640 they one of the assignments, was how do your courses relate to what you 326 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.599 actually need to do and what are organizations that you can be a part of? 327 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:04.359 And through that I researched and found there's nothing. Nobody is regulating the 328 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:10.880 life coaching industry. I could have a master's, I could do a fifty 329 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.720 class online, whatever it is, and say I'm a life coach. There's 330 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:15.720 there. It's not like being a counselor. And I was like, well, 331 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.279 why am I going to get a degree? I don't need one? 332 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:23.480 Um. And I found the International Coaching Federation that I CEF and went okay, 333 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:27.720 they're the closest thing, let's pursue that, but this degree is not 334 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:30.400 going to get me there. Okay, great, we're going to skip the 335 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:34.319 degree. So I dropped out and moved in a different direction, looking for 336 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:38.039 the classes, Um, that would get me there. And it was. 337 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:44.000 It truly felt like this, this bunch of energy just trying to move in 338 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:49.799 a direction, running in some slightly wrong directions, but so excited to get 339 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:55.799 something done, to move Um. I think. I think it was a 340 00:24:55.839 --> 00:25:02.680 combination at that time of knowing that satisfaction, knowing I needed to get back, 341 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:07.000 feeling that, tapping into how I felt in the past when I did 342 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:12.039 that. And I I'm sure it's hard if you haven't ever found that passion 343 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:18.599 and then finding those moments instead. Maybe it wasn't a job, maybe it 344 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.079 wasn't a whole year that you can say yes, this is it, it 345 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.400 was this moment. What did that moment have and what was characteristic about it 346 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.240 that you can tap into and make it larger Um. So yeah, it 347 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.119 went a little crazy and, like I said, I I originally was thinking, 348 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:37.279 Hey, let's work with Youth, let's do that and it's transformed even 349 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.039 since then. 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Well, I think that's an interesting I mean, so it's living 366 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.680 on this idea of ready, shoot, aim right, like I get the 367 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.400 idea and take the leap and then figure kind of figure it out as you 368 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.799 go and what and the inspirations will will flow in the way that they're supposed 369 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.960 to flow. But a lot of people get too, too lost in the 370 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:36.640 in the details, and I found in my situation and I hear in a 371 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.400 lot of other people's stories, is that they want to make that leap, 372 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.000 they make that decision. This is why I asked you about your decision and 373 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:47.039 your actions. But the action that they do is just constant research and they 374 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.799 get lost in that. You know, that paralysis by analysis situation, and 375 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.960 and then they're going, well, I'm so in the weeds of analyzing this, 376 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.200 of where I want to go. What's the point? I'm just gonna 377 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:02.640 stay where I'm at, as opposed to get the I mean do it in 378 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.799 a way that I'm not saying just go quit your job and you know whatever, 379 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:08.240 whatever it looks like for you. Some people do it and they can 380 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:12.640 make it great, but you have to weigh that decision. But making those 381 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.839 movements right. This is where those one one FT in front of the other 382 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.759 becomes a big thing. And someone had told me, no, don't worry 383 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.799 about the path ahead of you. Just when you put one foot in front 384 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.839 of the other, that path will unfold, and I thought that was just 385 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:32.039 a beautiful statement, because that's that that journey that everybody says don't worry about 386 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.319 the destination. It's all about the journey and I think both are equally important. 387 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:40.079 But let's not just stick to a single path and let it unfold, 388 00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.200 and that's really how that journey just expands in front of you. So it's 389 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.119 it's fun right to just go through this and like, Oh, I'll pivot 390 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.119 here. I was gonna do this, but now this sounds great, let's 391 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:53.000 do that. That's living in my in my humble opinion, it can be 392 00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:57.519 tough in that in that case, um, and it was. I've seen 393 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:02.000 myself pivot in the past and it was not like it was over this last 394 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:07.799 year. Um, this last year was truly like you know in your gut, 395 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:14.480 once you tap into that passion, you know and and if you spend 396 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.960 I was spending a good bit of time grounding into myself and learning about myself 397 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.880 and who I am and doing a bunch of meditation to slow down, to 398 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:30.319 focus, to be in my body that it truly felt like I could. 399 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:34.359 I could, I could discern, I could take those ideas and say, 400 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.599 you know what, this decision is not one that that I can go down 401 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.359 because it's not keeping me on this path. It is too far off. 402 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.319 All the steps that I took, even the ones that were short terms of 403 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:51.799 going to, you know, starting to enroll into masters, was still on 404 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.640 the path and so I was taking those steps. I knew it would get 405 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.960 me closer. I just decided on a different way to get me closer, 406 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:04.880 you know, and I think that's once you tap into that purpose, you 407 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.599 gotta listen to your gut, you gotta follow some of that, because you're 408 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:14.319 gonna know if it aligns or if it doesn't, and then having that faith 409 00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.000 that, yeah, this is this is really what's going to be the right 410 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.200 fit for me, and so trust that it's going to come, because you 411 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.839 but you got to know yourself well enough, and that's the scary, difficult 412 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.920 part. When isn't that really if you're going to do the research on anything? 413 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.559 At that point, isn't that the research that you should really do. 414 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.079 Because, again, if we go back to what we just what we said 415 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.960 earlier, is that to get to these these doesn't matter where you want to 416 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.319 go in life. You know, it's not about the what do you want 417 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:45.799 to be when you grew up, is the WHO do you want to be 418 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:51.119 when you grew up and look at that aspect and make that individual happen, 419 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.039 and then that's where that awareness comes. That's when you were able to do 420 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.480 that discernment. Is, is this in line with the WHO? Like the 421 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.599 what can shift, but it's the WHO that should always stay the same. 422 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:06.720 Absolutely, Yes, I love the way that you put that. What can 423 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:11.599 shift, but it's the WHO. And if you can focus on that instead 424 00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.759 of the external profession or what you're doing um or how you get there, 425 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:22.240 even it's hey, is this an alignment with who I want to be? 426 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:29.720 Yeah, that's it. Yeah, and I and that's personal personal development. 427 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:34.559 Again, these pieces, these are the important key pieces. Two for a 428 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.160 success. And when I say success, I'm not talking about financials. I 429 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.759 mean if financial is what how you weigh that, then great, but the 430 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:48.480 successes in life is is is this personal journey, personal development journey, and 431 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:55.079 I tell my kids all the time that I'm gonna because I've gone through it 432 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.400 now, I know the importance of it and I know they don't teach in 433 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.480 the school. So let me, as a parent, bring this to your 434 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:07.000 tension, boys and girls that work on this person and that is a personal 435 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:08.960 discovery. As you do that, and as my son started to do it, 436 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.880 their their idea of what they wanted to do started to shift as well, 437 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:17.079 because they became became to become more in line with, like you were, 438 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.440 I want to help people or I want to do this and and it's 439 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:25.640 that discovery that is so important. Um, and then you don't. If 440 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.640 you can, I'm still all about cheats and the youth. Like, if 441 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.559 I can, and I know I'm more of a business mindset coach at this 442 00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.440 point, but if I can get in front of the kids as much as 443 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.599 possible to really it's a game changer. It's a game changer for your whole 444 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.480 life. Yeah, yeah, it really is. That's that's awesome that you're 445 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:52.799 doing that and instilling that because you see the need. Um, I sticks 446 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.000 out in my mind. I said I hate the question what do you want 447 00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:00.200 to be when you grew up, because it for two reasons. They that 448 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:06.079 pinpoint idea on a profession and it turns the what into be. What do 449 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.400 you want to be? I don't want to I want to be different characteristics. 450 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.440 I don't want to be my job. I don't know how many adults 451 00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.519 I've talked to that. They're like, I'm still trying to figure out what 452 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.000 I want to be when I grow up. So obviously that's a that's a 453 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:24.039 very moot conversation to have. And yet we put that focus Um on the 454 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.359 youth. And if I ever do get my doctor it's going to be researching 455 00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.559 that influence. And at what age is it bad or how many years do 456 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:37.680 you ask it and it just builds up over time. My aunt asked of 457 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.920 my nephew, what do you want to be? He's eight Um, and 458 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.079 he made some comment about being an engineer, and so I quick I cringed 459 00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:51.119 and then I quickly followed it up with why. Why do you want to 460 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.160 do that? What draws you to that? He said, I want to 461 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.640 build things that help people, and I went, oh my gosh, that's 462 00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.880 the way you can change that conversation, because now you tell APP and develop 463 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:07.160 that characteristic and it opens it up way wider than engineer. So if he 464 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.480 gets in there and doesn't like the math, although he's smart, he might 465 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.920 Um, but if he doesn't like the math, what are other ways that 466 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:19.679 he can build things that help people if that continues to be that purpose and 467 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.800 that that focus for him? So yeah, it's it's it's on my mind 468 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.639 because a lot of parents are asking it. If they're you know those boards 469 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:29.920 that everybody holds up with back to school, there's always a you know, 470 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.199 what do you want to be when you grow up? Um, I just 471 00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.159 different ways to ask it. How could you ask that differently? What the 472 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.599 job do you want to do? You know, make it about a job 473 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:47.360 rather than uh yeah, yeah, and you should. I don't know if 474 00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.039 you want to get a doctorate, but I mean, let that be your 475 00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:54.239 focus of research, because that's that's is that talk. I mean, and 476 00:34:54.320 --> 00:35:00.519 literally the reason why we're at where we're at as adults, because as people 477 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.360 ask those questions and and you know, it's it's harmless that they don't mean 478 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.519 anything bad by it, but it's programming how we think about things and and 479 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:14.440 and that part is not always the greatest. But so, Um, that 480 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.599 would be great research to really come up with that talk that that. How 481 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:23.400 do we express that to a more Um, meanful way to to spawn the 482 00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:29.440 growth of the individual of those kids, because that's that's so important. And 483 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.000 when they realize that they can have that creative aspect, because I feel like 484 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.599 it's that turning point right where you can do, you can be whatever you 485 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:38.199 want to be. Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah Blah. 486 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.679 But then that's great, right, that's our creative side as the kids and 487 00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:44.639 and we're going, yeah, that's great. But when we start, like 488 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.800 you were saying, targeting that into a job, then it goes well, 489 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.599 now I'm no longer creative, it's now I'm in this very specific place, 490 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.840 and so it takes the the you know, creativity out of life, just 491 00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:00.440 right out of it. Funny, it's so limited when you think about it. 492 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:05.800 The job that I'm doing now, I never would have known imagined it 493 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.719 existed that. If you're starting to pick penpoints, there are so many more 494 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:16.960 than you realize that to do that and say web developer, um or whatever 495 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:23.079 it may be, at that young of age maybe so limiting to all the 496 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.719 other possibilities that are out there. Um, and that's where, again, 497 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.679 finding finding that part of who you are and what's that direction you're heading in? 498 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:37.039 Not Towards a pen well, there will be many pen points on that 499 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.079 path, but you're in a direction instead. Um, yeah, and I 500 00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.480 think you know, you get into high school and it becomes a serious conversation 501 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.880 because now you're actually looking. Okay, where am I going to go to 502 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.800 school? What am I going to study? And it's all focused about the 503 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:58.159 practicalities of it. But there's sometimes, depending on who you talk to, 504 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.679 what kind of counselor you have, what kind of pair whatever, that will 505 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.960 help develop the person in the process. Um, but it can get lost 506 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.079 in that that shuffle trying to go off to college, for sure. So 507 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.159 we're we're not quiet and yet. But I'M gonna start wrapping this up and 508 00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:21.320 taking some direction because because you are a coach, and so I want people 509 00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.960 to understand maybe a little bit more about your process. So if they if 510 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.239 they say yeah, well know, like what kristen saint sounds really good. 511 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:37.239 What what should they expect with your process? So generally with my coaching, 512 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:42.199 Um, I ask a lot of questions. I may interject here and there, 513 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.159 UM, but I'm gonna Challenge. Um. I've got a little bit 514 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:52.239 of a devil's advocate personality that likes to flip things on its head. Um. 515 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:53.599 And it'll depend on the person. If they come to me and are 516 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.719 open to it, Um, I'll push a little bit more and ask some 517 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:01.360 challenging questions. Um. But most of it is an opportunity, in a 518 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:07.239 space too, to work through and think through who you are, Um, 519 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:13.679 and what is going to be that that focus and everything originates from my clients. 520 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:15.960 Um. I'm not here to tell them, hey, you probably need 521 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.199 to do x, Y and Z, or I think you need to do 522 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:24.320 this. I'm even hesitant to say if you're unsure, I'll help you, 523 00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:29.039 because I don't like doing that. Um. I want to make sure that 524 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:34.760 it truly does originate and and I've discovered that if you're diving into yourself, 525 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.639 you'll come up with what you need to do on your own. Like I 526 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.320 said, your Gut's gonna lead you. You'll figure it out, UM, 527 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:46.079 and it it's creating that space, um, those questions to to get you 528 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:52.440 thinking and then that accountability. Um. I have text you throughout the way 529 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.840 and see how things are going and support and see what you know needs to 530 00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:00.519 be worked on and and there's a there's a flexibility. I think with my 531 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:07.239 one of my recent clients, she was making action plans that she was coming 532 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.119 up with, originating and wasn't following through, and so we were talking about, 533 00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:14.800 okay, why is that? And it it turned out to be that 534 00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:19.119 she was kind of placing these external expectations on herself. They weren't really coming 535 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:24.159 from internal things. She was trying it all on again on this path in 536 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.719 her direction. So that's great. Everything is not going to be perfect, 537 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.880 you're not going to do your action plans perfect a hundred percent, but you're 538 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:38.639 moving in the right direction and that's what's important. Yeah, and isn't that 539 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:45.239 like the key and the accountability, because we were, we live in, 540 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.280 were habitual beings, and so we live in that habit and sometimes we just 541 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.280 need to say, Hey, did you fall back in your habit? Where 542 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.480 you at? What are you doing? What does that look like for you? 543 00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:57.559 And they're like Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, and 544 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.960 then they go and so is that gentle accountability? So I mean, I 545 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:06.000 love so even being a coach business owner wold, I still have coaches, 546 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:10.159 I have those mentors that that are that we need that as human beings is 547 00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.880 to keep us in line, in line with that. And and you know, 548 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.559 our coaches are gonna be have developed an awareness that we may may not 549 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.960 have been even as coaches. And and you talked to Oprah Winfrey and all, 550 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:27.639 they all have coaches. They all because they're humans, right, they 551 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.800 they even as successful as they are in in their whole genre of where they've 552 00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:37.800 been, they still need that that gentle accountability as well. And so it's 553 00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:44.519 it's that's to me, was the beautiful thing that I found in a coach 554 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:46.880 and and I love that you were saying that is it's this. No, 555 00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:51.840 you're gonna the discovery is yours, right, that's your journey and I'm just 556 00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.639 my mentor, she always says. I just get to sit in the front 557 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:59.440 row and watch your movie happen, and that's the best place to be as 558 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:04.000 a coach is just because you watch this whole thing just again unfold and develop 559 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.440 and you're like and it's just so I say it's beautiful, but it's like 560 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.800 the only word I can really come up with because it's aspiring. It's just 561 00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:15.119 just it's so good to watch that. And and Um, so I love 562 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.199 your approach and I think it's a very important approach. So I think a 563 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.079 lot of coaches, which may turn off people, that they say, well, 564 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.320 you need to do this and it gets a little bit more demanding and 565 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:30.280 and the accountability is more structured to do as I say, which is fine. 566 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.840 I mean there is a say like we know the tactics and the things 567 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:38.519 as you do that, but then then it becomes this the gentle accountability. 568 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.440 And if you if you get to those insights on your own in your own 569 00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.800 time, they're gonna be ten times hundred times more powerful than if I tell 570 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:53.039 you what the best steps are. So well, isn't and isn't that? 571 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.840 So we have that extrinsic motivation, which is a coach right those sample accountability 572 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.519 is or you go to some Tony Robbins event or you get hyped up. 573 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.280 So that's all external motivation. When that fades after a while, it's the 574 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.519 intern that intrinsic, that internal piece that, like would you say, when 575 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.960 they make that connection, that's the lasting piece, that that is that, 576 00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:22.000 when it's intrinsic like that, that's what keeps pushing you forward and to win. 577 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:27.480 That is developed, that's that's that's lasting. It's not it's not like 578 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:31.159 going to some you know event that's going to motivate you for four days and 579 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:35.400 then you're gonna go back to where you were, because once that shift happens, 580 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:42.119 intrinsically you've you've replaced your old habit with the new. And, to 581 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.280 your point, though, even even once you shift, like you said, 582 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.760 even Oprah Winfrey and others who you think have it together, they've been through 583 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.599 this, they're done, there is no done. You know life will change, 584 00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:59.599 you will develop and change as a person potentially, and to be able 585 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:05.119 to have that that assistance and that practice and just somebody else to walk through 586 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.400 it with you, Um, wherever you are on the journey is is huge 587 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:13.599 because, yeah, there's there's not really a destination when it comes to personal 588 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:19.639 development. It's an ongoing process. It becomes very addicting too, because when 589 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.920 you experience that growth, you're like man, that was cool. Now what? 590 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.079 What else is gonna Happen? And you hit that at the point. 591 00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:29.199 Oh Cool, now what? And it is. It's, it's and it's 592 00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:34.519 not. It's not a never done, because there's there's never a final piece. 593 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.719 Like you do. You hit that goal and then you're like, if 594 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.039 I can do that. Now, what can I do? And so it's 595 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:45.960 never done because you're constantly I believe this wholeheartedly, that we as humans are 596 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.880 built to grow, to expand, and when we feel stuck in those twelve 597 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:54.119 year jobs that we don't like, it's it's we hate it because we're not 598 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.000 expanding, we're not doing you know again, if it's purpose driven, then 599 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.559 you're definitely gonna want to expanding that purpose. But just as as a human 600 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.199 being, we need to expand in every aspect and we need to do it 601 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.480 in my in my mind, we need to do it holistically. So if 602 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:13.079 we're looking at a spiritual aspect, that partners to grow, if it's professional 603 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.639 aspect, that part needs to grow, and and there's just all these ways 604 00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:20.159 that you can expand in life and just developed this higher awareness of who you 605 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:24.840 are. Yeah, Oh, and it's it's an amazing, an amazing process 606 00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:29.960 to get to know yourself. It feels a little weird to say when you've 607 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.000 been yourself for so long, even maybe even throughout your team, and you 608 00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:38.760 know child ears because you were still developing. But that to truly understand who 609 00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:45.239 you are, better to meet who you are and then continue to feed that 610 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.559 and live in that. UH, yeah, I don't know how else blissful. 611 00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.639 I don't know how else to describe it. Yeah, absolutely. Well. 612 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.960 So we are getting close, close to wrapping up time here. So 613 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.280 now that they know the process, they know your journey, they know your 614 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.719 story and people are gonna go. I want to work with Christian like. 615 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.480 I love her personality, I love everything about her. She's just so awesome, 616 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.679 because you are and I love your personality and I would encourage people that 617 00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:15.039 she is resonating with you to to connect with with her. So how do 618 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.920 they do that? Um. So I have just launched my web page. 619 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:24.119 I am truly in the starting phases of being a public facing business. Um. 620 00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:28.119 So, the direction of purpose, dot com, or, if you 621 00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.679 forget off of the or, my name actually should redirect there as well, 622 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:36.559 Kristin McDonald dot com. Um and that I pick that business name just because 623 00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:40.119 it truly is. It is that direction, not the point of the purpose. 624 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:44.760 Um and so I am, yeah, taking for you. Know, 625 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.000 we can do an intro session and and see if this is really the right 626 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.599 fit. Understand where you are. The way I see it, they're kind 627 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.159 of three phases. You may be stuck in the fog going. I have 628 00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:59.639 no idea what my purpose is. All I know is I do not feel 629 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.519 comfortab or where you where I am, Um, or maybe you know where 630 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.440 your purposes but you're struggling to follow through with it, Um, and getting 631 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:14.239 grounded in that Um, to to prepare yourself to live it. And then 632 00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.599 the last phases is actually living and walking in that daily and that support. 633 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.440 Um. And so all three of those are kind of my my focus at 634 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:28.239 this point. Perfect, perfect. So if you can leave these Um, 635 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.280 these are wonderful people, with one final piece of advice, a Golden Nugget, 636 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.320 Um, what would that look like? What? What? What would 637 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:42.239 that be? I think to know that that you have unique gifts, Um, 638 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:47.239 you are unique person in this world. That brings something too. Maybe 639 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:51.519 it's the entire world, maybe it's just your small world around you, Um, 640 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.719 and you need to live it. You need to for your sake, 641 00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:59.039 for the fulfillment, for the enjoyment, for the happiness that comes with it, 642 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.480 and the world around it needs it, whatever that looks like. So, 643 00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:06.679 UM, wherever you are in those phases, take that time. However 644 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.599 you get the help, I'd love to work with you, but hey, 645 00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:12.519 if you've got other avenues. Go for it, because it is. It 646 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.320 is so important that you understand who you are and you live it to the 647 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.440 world around you. Absolutely. You know. That's that's why I have this 648 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.920 podcast, is just to to connect people with those. If you again, 649 00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.719 if you don't resonate with me and you resonate with Kristen, work with Kristin, 650 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.760 get the help you need, because that's it's the mission, and I 651 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:35.039 think that's another piece that when we go through that much right, we have 652 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.360 now we have this mission, were like, we just want everybody to be 653 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:43.440 in that blissful state right, that continued growth. And so I want to 654 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.280 encourage people again that if you did resonate with Christin, reach out to her 655 00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:52.840 Um ship, it will be a phenomenal journey. I can guarantee it. 656 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.239 And so and with that, Chris, and I wanted to thank you for 657 00:47:55.320 --> 00:48:00.039 your time, um coming onto the show and share in your story and your 658 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.639 wisdom and and really putting yourself out there to help people get to that point. 659 00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:08.239 So I appreciate you so much. Thank you. Thank you for having 660 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:12.159 the show and inviting me on. This is this is an awesome thing that 661 00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.079 you do. Thank you, thank you so much and and for all the 662 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:21.960 listeners out there who continually showing our continual can I can't talk. Continue to 663 00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.000 show up there we go, continue to show up, Um. That's how 664 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:28.079 we make the shifts right, just staying connected, saying in, just in 665 00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.719 there and taking those steps in that right direction that Christ has been talking about. 666 00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:36.079 So I want to say I appreciate you guys as well. So and 667 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:37.960 with that, Um, I will catch you guys on the next episode. 668 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.760 Thanks for tuning in. If you've found value in this episode, the best 669 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.280 thing you can do is to subscribe, rate or review this podcast. If 670 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.960 you would like to further investigate how you can flip your mindset, feel free 671 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:59.679 to contact me through my website at www dot garrett goggins dot com. Can't 672 00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.119 wait to catch you on the next episode.